Akira | April 21, 2009 at 9:19 am
St. John Chrysostom:
“Let those who have borne the burden of Lent now receive their pay, and those who have toiled since the first hour, let them now receive their due reward; let any who came after the third hour be grateful to join in the feast, and those who may have come after the sixth, let them not be afraid of being too late, for the Lord is gracious and He receives the last even as the first. He gives rest to him who comes on the eleventh hour as well as to him who has toiled since the first: yes, He has pity on the last and He serves the first; He rewards the one and is generous to the other; he repays the deed and praises the effort.”
okmike | May 16, 2009 at 2:27 am
Blessings to you for seeing the light and having the guts to believe it and take action on those beliefs.
FatimaZahra | February 18, 2010 at 11:54 pm
salam aleikum do you know what it means in English is : peace be upon you the Islam calls for peace and spreading harmony among people.
Are you really serious about what you are doing sister???
i really wonder if you do so
To answer you question about why Jesus will come, he will come to save your mind from ignorance, for making the real truth spread
I’m a Muslim and i do know what it means being a Muslim , and it’s really so hard for us to get all this insults from people , i do have a heart and a feeling like you and like all the people on this earth , i don’t know why you’re trying to erase our emotions , and to make us criminals while we’re not, you are making a big segregation between people from different religion, you’re not open minded enough to talk about religions and to judge Muslims ,
It’s really very hard to comprehend the holy book Quran, especially some chapters are related to others, and we need to be careful about how to clarify what is inside those verses.
I do believe that everyone is free to believe in whatever religion and whatever God, but before talking about what we don’t know is to know it really
ALLAH said that his mercy came before his anger so where is the hatred , I learnt from Islam that I can’t be a real believer till to love to my brother ( people) what I love to myself.
So where is the no love and the grudge?
I guess when you started to read the Quran you was searching for an answer how could “the son God” Jesus as Christian said be killed in a cross, and that shouldn’t be ?
But I think you get an answer that you didn’t want to hear, you was reading the Quran and inside you you was searching for anything to make you disbelieve on it,
Islam isn’t a cruel Religion, but a religion that calls for peace, love, and harmony, living as unique.
I cannot judge the bible even if I did read it, and I can’t be sure from knowing everything inside it, or making a judge about.
I lived and I will live my whole life as a Muslim and I get no problem on that, my grand mother lived and died and she’s a Muslim and she get no trouble she lived with a white heart like angels giving and forgiven and sawing a pure soul inside my family
I Thank the God that she died before to know that some people judge us as , criminals with cold blood have no mercy in them , and no heart control their feelings
At the End we are humans
May God guide you
mary christina love | February 20, 2010 at 10:49 am
You make a lot of assumptions wihtout any evidence. Your statements are typically twistable and non-tangible. For example your statement,
“It’s really very hard to comprehend the holy book Quran, especially some chapters are related to others, and we need to be careful about how to clarify what is inside those verses”.
Tells me absolutely nothing except that you are trying to defend a book that you do not understand. Why? Seriously think about an answer for this: What would happen to you if you decided to leave Islam? Now don’t answer that you would never leave Islam, because the question is ” what would happen IF you did?”
Do you really think I insult muslim people. You misunderstand my intentions to enlighten them, that they are espousing a totalitarian ideology disguised with mandatory rituals that offers no salvation and enlightenment, just a “paradise with houris and wine.”
You said: “To answer you question about why Jesus will come, he will come to save your mind from ignorance, for making the real truth spread”
What question? Did I really ask that question? You must have imagined that because I know why Jesus will come. He will come to restore peace on an earth that has been devastated by an evil imposter! At least you admit that Jesus will return….A bit of truth makes a huge lie much more believable!
And please look at another statement of yours…
“I do believe that everyone is free to believe in whatever religion and whatever God, but before talking about what we don’t know is to know it really?”
If you believe that sincerely, then you are not a muslim at heart, OR you are trained to mindlessly parrot what others have told you! Please give me the surah number verifying that….. and for your statement:
“I learnt from Islam that I can’t be a real believer till to love to my brother ( people) what I love to myself.
I think you are making that up; or did someone tell you that too? Where in the koran does it say to love your brother as yourself?
And this statement:
Where is the surah for your statement:
“ALLAH said that his mercy came before his anger”
By “his”, Do you mean “GOD’s” mercy came before “ALLAH’s” anger? You need to be more specific for me to know what is really being said.
And this assumption you made:
“I guess when you started to read the Quran you was searching for an answer how could “the son God” Jesus as Christian said be killed in a cross, and that shouldn’t be ?”
NO…Jesus showed us how to live, and he showed his followers how they would be treated for believing in him. Upon his death, he ushered in the new covenant of God. The New Testament came into effect when Christ died on the cross. In Hebrews 9:15-17 it says “And for this cause Christ is the mediator of the New Testament…For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead, otherwise, it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.” The change of covenants was a fulfillment of a prophecy found in Jeremiah 31:31-34.
“Islam isn’t a cruel Religion, but a religion that calls for peace, love, and harmony, living as unique.”
Where can you cite a reference that Islam calls for peace, love and harmony? As far as “unique”, yes, Islam is uniquely deceitful, cruel and intolerant!!! But, for the peace. love, and harmony, I think you confusing Islam with Christianity…Is that part of the strategy to entice Christians?? What about the 270,000,000 Budhists, Christians, Hindus, and Zorasterians who died by the Islamic sword IN THEIR OWN HOMES AND COUNTRIES when the followers of Muhammed invaded their lands and raped their women? Many of them were people who did not even know Islam existed untill hordes of the crescent moon decended on them for booty! Survivors have historical accounts to tell. You should read some of them. If you want a good source, ask me, I’ll give you one.
And, you said: “In the end, we are all humans.”
So I guess the surah about allah turning the Jews into pigs and apes was just a joke! ha ha..what a comic relief!
I am a human made in the image of God, and as for now, you are still a slave.
FatimaZahra | February 20, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Peace be upon you
Sorry what you say ??
i’m making no assumptions, i’m saying what i’d learnt from my family my religion, and my culture.
i said that it’s hard for us as ordinary people to explain all the verses , that’s why we need to ask the profesors of knowledge
To answer your question about what would happen to me if i’ll leave the Islam , absolutly nothing i told you before that a lot of people have a lot of wrong ideas about us
I’m free by nature as you and as all the people, i’m not forced to take ISlam as my unique religion, if i don’t believe on it i wouldn’t be here to write to you or try to understand what is the secret behind your freaky statements ( there are people who did it and no one stopped them or punished them, because the only judge and punisher is the GOD )
In my country there are Muslims, Jews, and Christians living together with no harm , that’s why i’m surprise from the way you are talking about us as a savage machine destroy everything beautiful in this planet ( even if everything is already destroyed by the poisened ideas)
To answer your question about if do i really think that you insult us as Muslims ??
Yes sweet lady you do it, and whom you want to enlight ?? Muslims this is a new joke that i can’t cease of laughing , who asked you to do so ??
Do you think we are blind , everthing is in front of us and we do know how to choose between bad and good, nobody was born good and no one was born bad, but it’s us who choose what we want to be.
Islam is not promising paradise and wine with houris , do you think we are Muslims just to get pleasure in the end. woooooooow really surprised about you’re way of thinking ,
If Islam was a bad religion that calls for war and discrimanition and segregation nobody would attend it , and look today how many Muslims we have in the planet.
About jesus , you said to me :”At least you admit that Jesus will return” , i really tried to understand what is behind this sentence,At least that means i don’t believe that he will come , and here i could tell you that you know nothing about ISlam and Muslims , we do believe in Jesus as much as we do believe in Muhammed ( peace be upon the both), we do believe that he will return to save the world as he did before .
About my statement : ““I do believe that everyone is free to believe in whatever religion and whatever God, but before talking about what we don’t know is to know it really”
listen i don’t say something that i don’t believe in, and what is the relation between this statement and between my identity as a muslim absolutly nothing , or you want me to kill people and to impose Islam on them they are FREE Million %,NOBODY told me that or tried to misguided me or told me just the part that he wants me to believe in , i want to make you grasp that there’s a big different between our societies and the western societies and since you said that we are trained while we are not, that means you are trained and christian are trained to know what they have to know
We as Muslims and we do live normally and it’s us who have to search for information about islam they don’t train us.
About the statement that said : “I learnt from Islam that I can’t be a real believer till to love to my brother ( people) what I love to myself.”
I’m sorry to disappoint you, but i didn’t make this statement up , as i said i leant this statement from islam , and let me inform you that ISlam is not Just a holy book Quran but also Sunna.
the sunna, the practice and example of the Prophet, is the second authority for Muslims. A hadith is a reliably transmitted report of what the Prophet said, did, or approved. Belief in the sunna is part of the Islamic faith.
Examples of the Prophet’s sayings
The Prophet said:
‘God has no mercy on one who has no mercy for others.’
‘None of you truly believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself.’
‘He who eats his fill while his neighbor goes without food is not a believer. ‘
‘The truthful and trusty businessman is associated with the prophets the saints, and the martyrs.’
‘Powerful is not he who knocks the other down, indeed powerful is he who controls himself in a fit of anger. ‘
‘God does not judge according to your bodies and appearances but He scans your hearts and looks into your deeds.’
‘A man walking along a path felt very thirsty. Reaching a well he descended into it, drank his fill and came up. Then he saw a dog with its tongue hanging out, trying to lick up mud to quench its thirst. The man saw that the dog was feeling the same thirst as he had felt so he went down into the well again and filled his shoe with water and gave the dog a drink. God forgave his sins for this action.’ The Prophet was asked: ‘Messenger of God, are we rewarded for kindness towards animals?’ He said, ‘There is a reward for kindness to every living thing.’
God means in Arabic is ALLAH , about his forgivess and he’s mercy the Quran Says : ‘O My slaves who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah, verily Allah forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”[Soorah az-Zumar (39): 53].
in surat Al-‘Araf, (verse 156):”…And My mercy embraces all things…”
in surat Al-Furqan, (verse 70) “…Those who repent and believe, and do righteous deeds, for those, Allah will change their sins into good deeds…”
Sorry Muslims raped no one , i’m not confusing between ISlam and christianity , with the known that the both came from the same GOd
Islam is a divine religion revealed by Allah to His Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) who sent him as a Messenger to all humanity. The Qur’an refers to the addressee of the Islamic message as the worlds (Al ‘Alamin). Muslim scholars maintain that the term ‘Al Alamin’ refers to the universe as a whole. In the Al Anbiaa sura of the Holy Qur’an, Allah says: “We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures”(1). The Qur’an also uses this term to refer to all people: “We have not sent thee but as a universal (Messenger) to men, giving them glad tidings, and warning them (against sin)”(2).
Muslims believe the prophet Mohammed received these revelations directly from God some 1400 years ago. It was at a time when he and other Muslims were being driven from their homes, persecuted, and killed. But although the Quran advocates self-defense, its most prevalent message is one of peace and brotherly love.
Christians have killed in the name of God, as have Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and others. But it is Muslims who have most recently been accused of turning “divine commandments” into a divine license to kill.
“Human life in Islam is extremely sacred,We’re not talking about just Muslim [life], but human life in general.”
Islam considers all life forms as sacred. However, the sanctity of human life is accorded a special place. The first and the foremost basic right of a human being is the right to live. The Glorious Quran says: “…if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.” Al- Quran 5:32
islam enjoins upon all Muslims to work actively to maintain the balance in which God created everything. Terrorizing the civilian population can never be termed as jihad and can never be reconciled with the teachings of Islam.
The Glorious Quran says:””Do not let your hatred of a people incite you to aggression.” Al- Quran 5:2
in another verse The Quran says “God commands justice and doing good and giving to relatives. And He forbids indecency and doing wrong and tyranny. He warns you so that hopefully you will pay heed. “Al- Quran 16:90
the persons who were transformed to pigs they disobeyed the orders of GOd,
it is advantageous for those who want to divide the Muslim and Jewish community with hate and fear to propogate this falsehood that all Jews are pigs and apes.
Remember how Muhammad pbuh treated the Jews of his time. We should emulate the Prophet pbuh in this manner as we do so dillegently in all others.
between us we don’t know who is the real slave is it me or you
Your ways of talking aren’t civilian enough , and i think i was respectable enough but even that you was all the time trying to create a kind of ironic upon the head of Muslims
From : FatimaZahra
mary christina love | February 22, 2010 at 9:25 am
The quotes you picked are only for muslim to muslim. The majprity of surrahs in the koran incite hate and terror on non-Muslims, and you know it if you have read it! I wish you would have asked me where you could learn about the history of Islamic imperialism and agression against non-muslims! So you actually believe that some jews were transformed into pigs?
FatimaZahra | February 23, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Peace be upon you
i don’t know really from where to start my answer
At the first place, i would like to stress that Muslims should have good relations with all people of every religion. At school, at work, in the neighborhood, et cetera, a Muslim should be kind and courteous to everyone. Islam teaches its adherents to interact with all people and cooperate for the good and betterment of the whole mankind. Islam encourages Muslims to cooperate with everyone regardless of his/her religion or creed in all projects that are virtuous or beneficial to humanity or other creatures of God.
Islam does not prohibit Muslims from being kind and generous to peoples of other religions, even if they are idolaters and polytheists. However, Islam looks upon the People of the Book, that is, Jews and Christians, with special regard, whether they reside in a Muslim society or outside it.
I know leaving this comment just like that with no verse from Quran would not be a delicious meal for the both of us
and talking about the relationship between a Muslim and non-muslims , i have firstly to say how the Quran look to this relationship
The Quran never addresses the Jews and Christians without saying, “O People of the Book” or “O You who have been given the Book,” indicating that they were originally people of a revealed religion. For this reason, there exists a relationship of mercy and spiritual kinship between them and the Muslims, all having in common the principles of the one true religion sent by Allah through His Prophets (peace and blessings are upon them all): He says, (He has ordained for (the Muslims) the same religion which He enjoined on Noah, and that which We have revealed to thee (Muhammad) and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: that you should establish the faith and make no division in it….) (Ash-Shura 42: 13)
Muslims are required to believe in all the Books revealed by Allah and in all the Prophets sent by Him, otherwise they are not considered true believers. Allah says in the Quran: (Say: We (Muslims) believe in Allah and in what He has revealed to us, and in what He revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes (of Israel), and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and in what was given to (all) the prophets by their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him do we submit.) (Al-Baqarah 2: 136)
Consequently, if the People of the Book read the Quran, they will find in it praise for their Books, Messengers, and Prophets.
In having dialogue with the People of the Book, Muslims should avoid such approaches that may cause bitterness or arouse hostility; Allah says, (And do not dispute with the People of the Book except by (the way) which is best, unless it be with such of them as transgress, and say, ‘We believe in what has been sent down to us and sent down to you, and our God and your God is one, and to Him do we submit.’) (Al-`Ankabut 29: 46)
Islam permits eating with the People of the Book, sharing the meat they slaughter, and marrying their women, marriage being a relationship of mutual love and mercy. Almighty Allah says: (…The food of those who were given the Scripture (before you) is permitted to you and your food is permitted to them. And (lawful to you in marriage are) chaste women from among the Believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you….) (Al-Ma’idah 5: 5)
i hope that i make it clear for you this time, and this is the love and harmony not just between Mulims but also between humankind.
Will | June 11, 2010 at 9:32 am
Actually Mary Jesus said “I have not come to change the laws of the Prophets”
Bruce Dauphin | June 16, 2010 at 9:46 pm
I think I should read the Quran
I like your approach to this topic, Mary. It is reasoned and rational. Fatima seems to be offended by your assertions seeing them as an attack on the followers of Islam and on Islam. Thus, she takes a defensive position and begins to pit emotion against emotion.
I think what has to be acknowledged by anyone who wants to participate in this sort of dialog is that no one and no religion is beyond reproach. Islam and Muslims have to be subject to a rational questioning of what they stand for. In fact, if any religion or believer is to assert that there’s is the one and only true way, then they ought to be prepared to be held up to the highest scrutiny.
One really needs to take a very hard look at what Islam and its followers are proclaiming. They claim that they are the arbiters (through Sharia) of what is right and wrong in the world, of who lives and dies.
I live in an Islamic country (the UAE) where according to the dictates of Islam my personal freedoms, in deed, my life could be snatched away from me on the basis of what it purports.
Should not we in the world know and question everything about this? Or, are we to remain pliant and ignorant out of courtesy or fear of offending. Mary, does a great service here on taking a critical look at this ideology that would want, if it could, to rule the lives of everyone in the world.
mary christina love | June 17, 2010 at 1:45 am
Thank you Bruce…Very well said!
Ian | April 24, 2012 at 5:20 am
But you are also a fraud. Like the quote you attributed to President JQ Adams. I didn’t have the time to go through the others as I am sure they are some that are accurate. But judging by the standards you uphold, it would have been just a waste of time. You obviously seeking out comfort and not truth.
“Passage on Muhammad by an unknown author in The American Annual Register for the Years 1827-8-9 (1830), Ch. X, p. 269; wrongly attributed to Adams in The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) (2005) by Robert Spencer, p. 83”
mary christina love | May 29, 2012 at 11:21 am
There is no proof that it was not written by Adams, and there is no other author suggested. If you could assign it to another author I am sure you would have done so instead of giving a reference to Robert Spencer, who I am pretty sure you don’t agree with for the most part anyway. The essay is unsigned, which gives someone like you the opportunity to label it an “unknown author” because they don’t want it attributed it to Adams. The essay has been attributed to Adams for almost 200 years. It does not make me a fraud, nor does it give you a legitimate excuse to judge my standards.
Jesse | September 11, 2011 at 11:39 pm
You don’t have to live in the UAE do you? As for fear of loss of freedoms, I think people being held in the US without charge like Guantanamo may have something to say about that.
However I do agree that every belief system should be looked at critically. But do so with intelligence and with an open mind. Everyone is free to choose their faith or belief, like countless thousands who convert to Islam in the US alone every year. Not all are like Mary who clearly had personal issues with her ex-husband.
But I repeat, I agree with your call for scrutiny. Scrutinise, but do so with peace in your hearts with goodwill to all.
mary christina love | March 25, 2012 at 6:19 am
My experience is much more than a personal issue. I am sharing the love of truth here!
Duke Nuke'em | August 31, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Hey “Flower of the Desert” this is for you….You seem pretty well educated to me so your adherence to this statanic belief system called islam (PSBUI) cannot be blamed on sheer stupidity. Therefore, it must be attributed to willfull ignorance. The one thing that distingushes Judiasm/Christianity from all other religions is prophecy. Prophecy is nothing more than history written in advance. Sure most religions have some vague prophetic passages but not a single belief system in the world has any prophetic passages that have actually come to pass exactly as they were written. For example: the book of Daniel the PROPHET records the angel Gabriel visited Daniel and provided him the famed “Seventy Week” prophecy that predicted, among other things, the precise timing of the Messiah presenting Himself as a king to Jerusalem. He would then be executed and Jerusalem and the Temple would be destroyed. Secular historical records; even the “Qur’an (PSBUI)” record the day Jesus Christ entered Jerusalem on the back of a Donkey, exactly as foretold in the book of Daniel some 500 years earlier. The Holy Bible also has many prophecies that have not yet come to pass. My personal favorite is Ezekiel Chapter 39 which describes in very great detail the absolute destruction of God’s enemies in the valley of Meggido, with a massive nuclear strike, as they prepare to attack God’s people in Israel. So my little “Flower of the Desert” that’s what you, and your fellow satanists, have to look forward to. Don’t believe me? Look it up. Only don’t let your husband catch you looking or you might lose your head.
mary christina love | September 1, 2010 at 8:07 am
Thank you…I agree with the verses and I like your attitude! But I do not know what made you think I am a Satanist.
Duke Nuke'em | September 1, 2010 at 11:53 am
Mary…I love you Baby!!! If I weren’t married already I’d come sweep you off your feet and ride off into the sunset with you. That post wasn’t for you it was for Fatima Zahra. “Zahra” in Arabic (and some Farsi translations) means “flower of the desert.” It’s also my daughter’s middle name but fortunately she’s not named after any satanic muslims. She’s named for my best female friend who is an Italian Catholic.
BTW I wanted to follow up on my post to Zahra….my dear Zahra I think I finally understand your problem. I know you need to have that very complex surgery and the reason you haven’t had it yet is b/c you’re a poor, oppressed muslim and the procedure you need is far too expensive for you. Never fear my darling…if you get together with Mary and the other people on this site I’m sure we can all raise the money you need. However you’ll need to be patient and bear with us as it is an extremely expensive and complicated procedure to have one’s head surgically removed from one’s ass and it could take some time to put the money together.
Good luck and may YHWH, the God of Jews and Christians, bless you and keep you.
Peace, Love, & Nuclear Weapons
Marshall Hervey | September 18, 2010 at 7:23 pm
If I understand what you are saying right, you stand for mercy, love, forgiveness, and worship of God. That is wonderful. The only problem is that you are taking the wrong path. Jesus Himself said “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no one comes to the Father but through me.”(John 14:6) The only way to God (YHWH or the LORD) is via His Son (Jesus) and the only way to have God’s Son is via faith. So, in order to truly be a servant of God and walk in peace, love, mercy, etc. you must admit your sin and need of forgiveness and put faith in Jesus that because who He is (the Messiah and Son of God) and what He has done(became flesh, died for our sins and rose from the dead) you are saved. Then you will be on the path of mercy and prosperity. Peace be to you.
PS- Duke, using language is rather inconsistent with service of the Lord. God Bless.
Duke Nuke'em | November 2, 2010 at 2:08 pm
@ Marshall…..you wrote: “Duke, using language is rather inconsistent with service of the Lord. God Bless.”
My dear Marshall, could you please clarify your comment as prima facie it appears to make no sense. Regardless as to whether you or I like it or not I must use language in order to communicate my ideas. I simply know of no other method.
Stella | April 2, 2011 at 3:24 pm
I came across your website while surfing. Thank you! I lived in Saudi Arabia for eight years and I saw the face of evil up close and it is not a pretty picture.
I have often asked the question, “Can one be a good Muslim AND and good American?” The Koran DEMANDS that Muslims seek out the infidel and slay us – (that’s you and I, my friend.) If they do not, then they are good Americans. It is obvious, one cannot be both.
Alan Miller | May 26, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Mary….I found your wonderful site while searching for information on Adams, and Jefferson’s position on the Barbary wars. I have learned so much. Thanks for your insights and hello from Macau, China.
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