The Truth behind Muslim Footbaths and Muslim Prayer

April 17, 2009 at 10:21 am 15 comments

As requested, I am posting this article about Muslim footbaths and prayers….
by Christine

There has been no lack of controversy behind tax-payers money used to accommodate Muslims footbaths. On university campuses, in public schools, and at airports, special Muslim accommadation demands are an issue. These demands include prayer rooms and prayer “trailers” for airport shuttle bus and cab drivers, special prayer accommodations for Muslim children in public schools; the list goes on and on.

But what is the truth behind a Muslims demand for special accommodations to support these required religious Sharia laws? And why are these special accommodations not considered discrimination, prejudice, or bias while other faith groups have been denied far less accommodations under the claim of separation of church and state?

After reading a testimony from a woman that converted to Islam to marry an Iranian born man who shared that prayer is not required on a strict schedule and Muslim prayers are commonly “made up” after work or school in Islamic countries including Iran, I decided to investigate the facts behind Islamic Law, footbaths and prayer requirements.

After doing a little research I discovered that Islamic authorities agree that footbaths are not required to fulfill their washing rituals prior to prayer and that provisions have been clearly defined. According to Islamic Law, you have a symbolic washing alternative or you can wash in one location and pray at another and this one washing can last you through an entire days prayers.

In addition, I have also discovered that provisions were made to “make up” prayers to accommodate people at work or school, allowing prayers to be postponed.

In light of these facts, one has to ask what the intentions are for requiring special accommodations through tax-payer dollars. Could this be the tactic they are employing to increase their visible presence in the United States? In the CIA World Factbook published in July of 2007, they reported that the Muslim population represents only 0.6% of the US Population, while Christians reported at 78.5% and Jews reported at 1.7% and yet they are demanding that our President refer to Judeo-Christian AND Islamic faith, claiming equality and weight within our country.

Next time we hear an Islamic organization demands or receives special accommodations, I hope this report will cause people to pause and ask for the facts that support their “requirements”, that we will take the time to investigate, and will have the courage to debate the issues without intimidation.

Footbaths and Ritual Washing Requirements

Saudi Arabia-Wakf

According to a Saudi Arabian publication Titled “Foreigners Guidance Center in Qassim Zone” published in 1991 by Wakf Endowment-Gratis 1411h, 1991, there are three forms of ritual washing or “Ablution” that are approved according to Islamic Law, called Tayammum or “Complete Substitue for the Ablution” as follows:

Complete Substitute for the Wadu or Ablution (tayammum)

Tayammum or resort to pure earth may substitute for the ablution and even the bath. This is allowed in any of the following cases:

  1. When a person is sick and cannot use water;
  2. When he has no access to water in sufficient quantity,
  3. When the use of water is likely to do him harm or cause any disease;
  4. When the performance of ablution makes the person miss a funeral or Eid prayer, which has no substitute.

In any of these instances it is permissible to make tayammum which is performed as follows:

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1. Strike both hands slightly on pure earth or sand or stone.

2. Shake the hands off and wipe the face with them once in the same way as done in the ablution.

3. Strike the hands again and wipe the right arm to the elbow with the left hand and the left arm with the right hand.

This tayammum is a symbolic demonstration of the importance of the ablution, which is so vital for both worship and health. When Islam introduced this repeatable ablution, it brought along with it the best hygienic formula which no other spiritual doctrine or medical prescription had anticipated.
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Canadian Society of Muslims

According to the Canadian Society of Muslims who is directly linked to The Islamic Institute of Civic Justice-The Muslim Court of Arbitration, They agree with Saudi Arabia’s Wakf interpretation of the Law regarding a Substitute for the Tayammum Ablution, calling it “Symbolic Wadu” follows:

Tayammum , the Symbolic Ablution

  1. Declare the intention that this act is for the purpose of worship and purity. 
  2. Touch earth, sand, or stone lightly with both hands and then wipe the face with them once as done in the partial ablution. 
    Touch earth, sand, or stone lightly with both hands and then wipe the right arm to the elbow with the left hand and the left arm with the right hand. 

Masjid (Mosque) of Tuscon

According to the Masjid of Tuscon, Arizona who belongs to the International Community of Submitters, also agrees with Symbolic Ablution. They also provided us with supporting Qur’anic texts to support their interpretation stating “personal opinion about ‘cleaner is better’ by adding more steps to God’s steps (7:171).”

They go on to say “If you are looking for being in the ‘cleanest’ physical state, then you may need nothing less than a complete digestive wash and shower each time, immediately followed by the prayer. This is not practical and you can’t help but realize this. You can never have enough steps and conditions or be completely clean because the body has constant organ secretions, surface bacterial decay etc. Besides, there could be endless arguments on how clean is clean. Is a water rinse best or a detergent scrub. Is it okay to repeat a garment or must garments be worn fresh for each prayer? Should the knees and armpits also be included and so on. God’s practical religion has already taken all this into account, and if God wanted us to do more steps, He would have mentioned it (6:19, 38, 114, 18:109). Imagine the plight of a shop level mechanic quite covered in oil all day!”

They then quote:

“GOD wishes for you convenience, not hardship, that you may fulfill your obligations, and to glorify GOD for guiding you, and to express your appreciation (Surah 2:185).”

Besides detailing the four steps of ablution, verse 5:6 clearly establishes that the Wudu is a symbolic cleaning ritual. (See also 4:43).

[5:6] O you who believe, when you observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), you shall: (1) wash your faces, (2) wash your arms to the elbows, (3) wipe your heads, and (4) wash your feet to the ankles. If you were unclean due to sexual orgasm, you shall bathe. If you are ill, or traveling, or had any digestive excretion (urinary, fecal, or gas), or had (sexual) contact with the women, and you cannot find water, you shall observe the dry ablution (Tayammum) by touching clean dry soil, then rubbing your faces and hands. GOD does not wish to make the religion difficult for you; He wishes to cleanse you and to perfect His blessing upon you, that you may be appreciative.

From the verse we can see that a Wudu holds good as long as it is not broken by the conditions listed in the verse. At the same time, it doesn’t say that the Wudu must be done only at the moment before each prayer, as someone may find it convenient to do the ablution at a particular place and pray at another location subsequently. We also know that a Wudu holds good for more than one prayer if it is not broken. Surely during this time, the person will have become ‘dirty’ from ambient dirt while the body will have continued its secretions and exposure to germs and bacteria!

Another proof is the dry ablution (Tayammum) when you cannot find water. The Tayammum which involves just two actions namely, rubbing the face and hands with clean dry soil is itself symbolic to the rest of the four steps done with water! God did not even ask us to wipe our heads or rub our feet with soil, yet this form of Wudu is absolutely valid!

Muslim Student Association-University of Southern California

The guidelines provided by the Muslim Student Association are indeed authoritative, deriving from the largest network of Islamic organizations in the United States.

In order to understand the weight of religious authority the Muslim Student Association has in the United States, one needs to understand these organizations origins, which is one of the oldest national Islamic organizations founded in the United States. MSA was found by the Muslim Brotherhood in 1963, a fundamentally Islamic organization linked with global terror including al-Qaida.

The MSA, also referred to as the Muslim Student Union has chapters throughout the United States and Canada. MSA is “a religious organization dedicated to establishing and maintaining Islamic societies on University and College campuses”. MSA also supports clubs on Public School Campuses.

Muslim Brotherhood also founded the North American Islamic Trust in 1971, The International Institute of Islamic Thought in the 1980’s, The Islamic Society of North America in 1981, The American Muslim Council in 1990, The Muslim American Society in 1992.

About the Muslim Brotherhood

The Muslim Brothers (Arabic: الإخوان المسلمون al-ikhwān al-muslimūn , full title “The Society of the Muslim Brothers“, often simply الإخوان al-ikhwān , “the Brotherhood” or “MB”) is an international SunniIslamist movement and the world’s largest, most influential political Islamist group [1], particularly in Egypt. Founded by the Sufi schoolteacher Hassan al-Banna in 1928, several linked groups have since formed across many nations of the Muslim world.

These groups are dedicated to the credo:

Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. Qur’an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.[2][3]

The Brotherhood claims that it seeks to instill the Qur’an and Sunnah as the “sole reference point for … ordering the life of the Muslim family, individual, community … and state”, [4].

About Islamic Society of North America

The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), based in Plainfield, Indiana, USA, is an umbrella group that describes itself as the largest Muslim organization in North America.

The vision of ISNA is “to be an exemplary and unifying Islamic organization in North America that contributes to the betterment of the Muslim community and society at large.” ISNA is an association of Muslim organizations and individuals that provides a common platform for presenting Islam, supporting Muslim communities, developing educational, social and outreach programs and fostering good relations with other religious communities, and civic and service organizations. ISNA’s annual convention is generally the largest gathering of AmericanMuslims in the United States. Islamic Horizons is the bi-monthly publication of ISNA. ISNA Elementary School.

Conclusion

Finally we come to the closing authority regarding Substitution or Symbolic Wudu in which we find that MSA also agrees with our other sources and mentions an additional provision which involves “wiping the socks” as follows:

Tayammum (purification with clean earth)

Tayammum means to resort to pure earth as a substitute for clean water for purification. One may resort to Tayammum in the following cases:

  1. When water is not available, or it is available but it is insufficient for both Wuduu and drinking needs.
  2. Inability of an individual to use available water due to illness.
  3. When the use of water may prove to cause sickness or illness.

Tayammum is performed in the following sequence:

  1. Bring Niyyah in the heart.
  2. Say: ” Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem.” In the name of Allah, most gracious, most merciful.
  3. Strike the hands with the open palms on clean earth, stone, sand, or gypsum. Shake off the excess and wipe only the face and the arms to the elbows.

Tayammum is a complete substitute for Wuduu and Ghusl, hence it may be used to perform anything that Tahaarah, purification, is essential for, such as Salaah, handling Al-Quran, etc.

Mashul Khuffain (wiping the socks in wuduu)

Al-Islaam, as a sign of grace and facility, has allowed a Muslim to wipe over the socks with wet hands for the purpose of Wuduu, if the socks have been worn after performing a Wuduu where the feet were washed. One may wipe over the socks for a day and night if one is staying, and three days if one is on a journey.

Humaam An-Nakha’ee (r.’a.) related:

“Jareer bin Abdullah (r.’a.) urinated and then made wuduu and wiped on his khuffs (leather socks), so he was asked: You do that after urination? Jareer answered: Yes, I saw the Prophet (s.a.s.) urinate and then made Wuduu and wiped on his socks.” (Muslim/Al-Bukhaaree)

As for the procedures of Mash, wiping on the socks in Wuduu, after one has washed up every part of Wuduu up to the ears, one needs not remove the socks; instead, one may wipe over the upper part of the socks once. One then starts wiping the feet from the toes and closes up with the ankles for each sock.

Prayer Schedule and Requirements

Also found through the MSA of USC website is a guideline for As-Salaah (The Regular Prayer) as follows:

“However, the majority of the scholars agreed that it is permissible to make up the missed Fard prayers at any time, be it after the Subh or after the ‘Asr prayers, because the Prophet said:

“Whoever forgets about a prayer, should offer it whenever he remembers it.” (Al-Bukhaaree/Muslim)

“The Prophet’s wife, ‘Aaishaa, reported that the Prophet used to make up the missed Sunnahs of Zuhr.”

Qadaaus Salaah (making-up missed prayers)

If a prayer could not be offered at the prescribed time, due to some valid reason, one should offer it as soon as possible, the sooner the better.

When one Fard prayer, such as the morning prayer, is missed, it should be offered as soon as possible. But if two or more prayers are missed, they should be offered in their order, Zuhr before ‘Asr, etc.

If the time of one prayer has expired and the time of the next prayer is due, the prayer that is expired should be offered first, if the time of the present prayer is long enough for both prayers, then the prayer that is due should be offered afterward.

The missed Sunnah prayers need not be offered unless they are Sunnahs Muakkadah, such as Witr, two Sunnahs of Subh prayer and the Sunnahs before Zuhr.

Al-Jam’u Bainas Salaatain (combination of two prayers)

A worshiper may be allowed to combine two prayers. This combination may be Taqdeeman, that is in advance, when the two prayers are offered together in the time of the first prayer, such as offering Salaatuz Zuhr in its correct time and Salaatul ‘Asr before its correct time.

“If you can offer this prayer every day do it, but if you can’t do it every day, do it once every Friday, if not, once a year, if not, once in a lifetime.” (Abu Daaud) 

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  • 1. latifa imamovic  |  May 1, 2009 at 8:41 am

    I have red the whole article about the wudu and the prayers I found it so helpful but I do have a question about the right wudu after sexual activities? some people say you can do it without washing the hair others say that I am obligated to do that or the wudu is not effective for the salat?.
    What is right?
    Thank you so much

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    • 2. mary christina love  |  May 1, 2009 at 10:06 pm

      After sex, You are supposed to rinse with water (or dirt if water is not available) your entire body including your hair. You do not have to use soap. Imagine how horrible it would be to have sex if water was not available! There is one reason for a man to have multiple wives, and for a woman to cover her hair!

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  • 3. Um ABdurRAhman  |  June 4, 2009 at 10:36 am

    your page misunderstands many of the rulings ragarding prayer. One cannot choose to miss a prayer as prayer is at a fixed time. THe sooner you pray that after the athan the better. To delay without a genien reason and work or play is not a good reason. IF work prevents one from praying at the time prescribed for the prayer the work becomes forbidden and one must find another job.

    TO make wudu and use it all day. This is also incorrect. This is in regard to not having to take off socks. Once you make wudu without socks and put them on still in a state of wudu you may keepyour socks on and just wipe over them each time you need to make wudu over the course of 24 hours. Wudu facilities need to be clean and i find most public places are not. Most people dont even bother to wash their hands or flush the toilet or even just make a lot of mess. It is important and there is nothing wrong with providing people facilites to pray. I would argue why would an individual wish to prevent such and important aspect of life in reagards to prayer.

    there are many lagitimate websites that give the correct understanding in regards to the rulings of pray/www.islamonline.net/english/introducingislam/Worship/Prayers/article01.shtml

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    • 4. mary christina love  |  June 6, 2009 at 6:41 am

      I realize that Islamic doctrine can be controling, persnikity and hair-splitting…always depending on something else…If this, if that, and if the Islamist is in a host country, and if there are enough Islamists to gang up on Believers in God…Satan will always try to find a way. Crying unfair one minute, racist the next, and supremism too… If one uses the restroom, if one is with non-Islamists, if one has sex, or if one passes gas between prayers, everything changes…….They don’t have sanitary plumbng and running water in some parts of the world….Also, if one is new to Islam or if one is not….If one is a believer in this or in that..Taqiyyah gives an Islamist an excuse for everything…I would argue why would an individual wish to kill and lie just to be able to have sex and wine in paradise?

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      • 5. Gemma  |  November 6, 2009 at 1:05 am

        that was a bit biased & somewhat incorrect (for an opinion). we dont call it doctrine, and we are not called islamists, we are called muslims, ( islam, – MUslam – a person in islam, Azan – MUazan- a person who calls for prayer). and one cannot hold their whuzu for a whole day, if thats what u call not being able to urinate, pass gas, or become sick (spew?) for a whole day, that is impossible for any one person to do unless he pushed his comfort zone and held it all.
        And muslims dont “gang” up on christians if thats what yuor trying to say… in islam we are told to let other faiths be, unless THEY approach us first. and for sanitary plumbing, no, because most of the world is corrupted and polluted, pitty. it also states in quran not to kill anyone unless they wish to kill and approach u first(The muslim). and this is coming from a muslim, but u know, u could always choose to trust a non-muslim who doesnt know islam that well, or who has not been a muslim before with full understanding of the religion, instead of having a biased summery of information, go check for urself with an open mind. and that is sick, all u think about for the paradise is sex and wine. heaven is a billion times better than this crappy little world full of corruption, in EVERY aspect;

        if you drink a sip of one stream of milk/honey/water/wine in paradise, you will sit for 45 billion years relaxing from a single drop of its taste. and your clothes will never wear out or get old(there will be many types of clothing to choose from for daily wear), and you will sit on sheets of musk as the minimum rank in heaven, and us women will be so beautiful, we will be 7 times brighter than the sun, as to expect, the men would have the amount of desire of 70 men because of the beauty of the women, and each man will have a wife in heaven, and each wife will have a castle. the only impurty that will come from the bodies is sweat, wich will be musk, and no urine or stool impuritys or passing gass, and no sadness.

        think of the taj mahal, the man who built it, he built it for his wife, to show her how heaven would look like.

      • 6. mary christina love  |  November 6, 2009 at 6:26 pm

        Gemma,
        I think “MUslams” (that is how you spelled it in your comment) do push their comfort zone and hold it all day. Isn’t fasting from sunrise to sunset especially on a hot summer day all about pushing a comfort zone to create a sense of unity? In my opinion, fasting and pushing the comfort zone “for Allah” is really done to give MUslams an sense of righteous superiority. It is not charitable, nor is it a good deed. Those who suffer and push their comfort zones together feel compassion for each other and end up hating those who do not suffer with them, creating a sense of “unity.”

        I guess you are trying to say that if one passes gas, urinates, or pukes etc., his prayers will not be accepted.

        “Islamists” is a word for people who endorse and blindly follow the totalitarian ideology of Islam and want to impose it on the whole world. Islamists call people of other faiths “Kafir”. Kafir means dirty, disgusting, unworthy, and basically non-MUslam…a much more derogatory term than the term “Islamists”.

        I think you are really getting off-topic with the fantasy of what heaven will be like: purely idealistic and unproven. To mention the the taj mahal was also off the topic and out of context….efforts to distract I suppose.

        Since you brought it up—In your comment you wrote that the Koran says “not to kill anyone unless they wish to kill and approach u first(The muslim).

        Obviously you believe fantastic imagry and misleading words over fact….The Koran clearly says to kill EVERYONE who will not submit to Islamic law. Oh, here’s one example:

        “Kill non-Muslims wherever you find them. Lie in wait and ambush them, seize and capture them using every stratagem of war.” Koran 9:5

        “Lie in wait for them”…..

  • 7. Um AbdurRahman  |  January 8, 2010 at 3:30 am

    Mary Christina love. mmmm I think you need to do a bit more research before you make such claims. YOu state that MUslims must kill everyone. Well acutally i am a revert and islam has taught me that my NON muslim relative have rights over me. In fact my mum is glad i am a muslim, and see s how i respect her so much compared to how i used to take her for granted. So i really think you are taking a line out of context from the Holy Quran.

    2. Fasting and charity, well acutally it is a deed done to please THe Creator and infact the value of fasting or giving charity increases the less people you tell. INfact it is better not to tell anyone if you can. Obviously Ramadan is different as everone who is well can fulfill this command.

    I am a servant of Allah. And I prefere over everything to serve Him then to serve fasion industry, people, society, money, infact peole who dont love God actually kill as they love money so much they become a slave to it. Control of countries and its resources is what you can see.

    ANd dont forget the bloodiest war this century the 2nd world war.

    The fact there is Creation and to admire the beauty and design of the creation is such a joy. When was the last time you admired nature??? Look at the colours, who choose them and fasioned them and made this world for us to use to our benift? It is given as a trust. Look how greed distroyes this world such as the rainforest in Brazil, etc.

    Also to insult islam and its followers does not prove that your right.

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    • 8. mary christina love  |  January 12, 2010 at 12:38 am

      UmAbdurRahman, Did I really say that Muslims must kill everyone, or did you just make that up to scare me? Actually, a verse in the Koran (9:5) says to kill non-Muslims wherever you find them, or have you not gotten that far yet? What do you feel so guilty about that you had to “revert”? And, remember that it was Hitler who started WWII, and he had Muslim allies–all in an effort to take over the world and kill the jews. It was for greed, power, territory, and genocide. So what is your point about it? Were you trying to make me feel guilty about WWII? Your muslim teachers are taking it easy on you because you are a new revert. You cannot handle the truth about Islam and the over 270,000,000 million deaths it is responsible for. You are a slave of Allah the pagan moon god by the way, not its servant. And how in the world do you deduce that I need your instruction on admiring nature? Look how Islam has made a desolate desert of the Middle East. Islam is the greatest imperialistic force in the world–That is its ultimate goal. Your indoctrination is progressing very slowly–your teachers are cunningly serving Islam by telling you not to tell anyone about it and lying to you–as you clearly don’t know anything about it, and if you did you would run like your hair was on fire—you could not handle it all at once–or ever. That is why the indoctrination process in a free society must be done with taqiyyah (lies of any color). Fasting is a way for you Muslims to feel miserable with each other and think you have done something righteous..i.e. “pat pat…your’e a good muslima girl because you commiserate with us.” Do you have any other reverted comments?

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  • 9. FatimaZahra  |  February 18, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    Peace be upon all of you
    i don’t know how to start my talking, i get really shocked from this website,i don’t know what to tell you miss Mery , but it’s your opinion and we have to respect it , but as AbduRahman said you have to search the real information, i just want to know why are you always against Muslims ( i mean real ones not the ones who pretend to be)
    did you know that in hadeth that : ” who killed a person as if he killed a whole generation, and who saved a life as if he saved the lives of a whole generation”

    we as Muslims we do respect all the religions and even in the Quran ” you have your religion, and i have my religion” i really don’t know from where you get all this ill-information , you misguide yourself and a lot of people with you .
    about the word “KAFIR” it doesn’t mean dirty the only explanation for it is NON- believer

    i’m surprised that you know a lot of things , but the majority are false , what do you really know about ISLAM so that to be against it 100%, and to tell people that they know just a part of it , but the negative side is often shown.

    All what we desire as Muslims is to live in peace and harmony, we are not reaching for to be the dominant power in the earth or to wash people minds as you said

    you still have to learn a lot of things that you might be ignoring or you don’t want to touch

    Ah!! Before to forget about a man that could have 4 wives , there are many condition on that : that must be a reason for getting married each time , and the first woman should agree about that, or if she doesn’t want she could get divorced , she’s free, not a slave as you said . he needs to love at the same way , and there must be an equality between those wives .

    For the scarf ( not all the Muslims women put scarf they are free ) me as a girl that puts scarf I chooses to put it ( when I had 13) even my family didn’t know about that , and I was happy to feel I’m grown and I’m pleasing the God with my scarf ,and showing that my body is my own , it’s the only property that I do have and I should respect and prevent from the eyes of the others , the scarf is a way to give us value inside our society and not to make us slaves like when you put a tattoo or you pierce yourself to show that you are different and this body is yours
    ( I do prefer to be slave for who creates me, than being a slave for my pleasures and my devil side)
    what all the people misunderstand that there’s a different between religion and culture
    And islam came to erase a lot of bad stuffs in those cultures.

    I know that people still take a bad view about us , we aren’t primitive or criminals, who creates us creates you also, we came from the same father and mother EVE and ADAN

    we are not here to invade the world or to impose the islam on the face of the others and as the Quran says ” you have your religion, and i have my religion ”

    I’m Totally sure after reading my comment you won’t change your mind , and what is inside you will be inside you
    As the QURAN says : ” ALLAH won’t change what is inside a people , till they change what is inside them”

    as an Addition ” WE ARE NOt LIARS” and we WONn’T BE
    I do believe we have one God but we do worship him with different ways

    From : FatimaZahra

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    • 10. mary christina love  |  February 20, 2010 at 12:03 pm

      I don’t know where to start either! First of all, you do not have to respect my opinion! Did I ask for your respect? It is you who are trying to look respectable! If you want some real information like AbduRahman suggests, why don’t you read the Bible? I took the time to read the koran! Did youknow that there are thousands of discarded hadiths? I think I addressed the peace and harmony claim in the former comment.

      I think Muslim men can have 4 wives because when the armies of the crescent moon invaded the lands of others, they killed the men first, and kept mostly women, taking them as slaves and wives. There were too many to go around, so every man got 4! It made for more slaves and a larger army too!

      As for the scarf, when the Muslims invaded Jewish and Christian villages, they stripped the women and took their clothes, giving them to the ones they wanted to keep for themselves as a sign of ownership. Muslims were not weavers of fine cloth and they were not seamstresses. Fabric must have cost a small fortune in those days, and Christian and Jewish women sewed for their captors after they were taken as slaves. Besides, the stolen garments would help to keep the sand and desert sun off of them, as well as hide dirty hair. It also served as a visual sign of who was a “free” woman after an invasion. The Christian and Jewish slaves were not allowed to wear their own clothes that were ripped off of them by the sword! Their lack of their stolen clothes of the era made them visible targets for sex to be violated as willed. Ever since, the hejab veils as a fascade of deceit and terror in the name of morality. A Muslim woman’s value in Islam is that they are actually in the front line of jihad. And they have babies to grow an army.

      You have been told that Muslims were the victims, but that is not true. As I said earlier, I will refer you to a good historical account if you request.

      You do not have only the two choices: to be a slave for God, or to be a slave for the Devil. You are made in the image of God! Only Satan enslaves. You are free to make a choice to be enlightened and saved, or to remain ignorant and be deceived!

      Realize that Muhammed and his first followers were neither Christian or Jewish. They did not accept the word of God from the Old Testament or the New Testament. As a result they were easy prey for deceit.

      So the QURAN says : ” ALLAH won’t change what is inside a people , till they change what is inside them” That is not a qualified statement. It does not say who “they” and “them” are. It could also mean that “Satan manipulates what is inside people when people believe other people’s lies”

      And, furthermore, it is not necessarily true either way. Jesus comes to many, as the representative of God, to change the hearts of many….

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  • 11. tulin salis  |  March 19, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    each to their own, i believe, each religion has their ideas, rituals etc. all should be respected and not picked on. rax payers are also muslims…what you think muslims dont work and pay tax? if a government can spend millions of dollars for fireworks on new years eve then surely they or should i say “the tax payers” can afford baths, etc.
    i dont know where you got the information that we should lie and wait for them and kill all who is not muslims but its a load of bulldust. i think you should read books from different authors as i think your reading books written by authors who hate muslims.

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    • 12. mary christina love  |  March 28, 2010 at 7:50 am

      From the Koran:

      “Kill non-Muslims wherever you find them. Lie in wait and ambush them, seize and capture them using every stratagem of war.” Koran 9:5

      It is unbelievable that it is in a book that purports to be religious, and for all time…… I can see why you would deny it! Maybe you just haven’t read it yet.

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  • 13. king  |  March 27, 2010 at 9:08 am

    Does the us charter of rights say that every human has the right to observe whatsoever religion they wish? If so, than how can you reject the needs of Muslims? Be they 1 person or 90% of the population.. All beings have the same rights. I thought t was a Christian teaching that every human should have acces to the same rights and necessities? It is called justice. How then, are you possibly claiming a simple act of religious ritual an act of terrorism? and in a country which is home to many faiths , why should Muslims be forced to change their religious common practices? Why can they not lead a comfortable life without being pointed at? america isn’t any more yours than it is Muslims’. Just because there are more christians doesn’t mean the rest of the people don’t even have individual freedom. Why do Christians get national holidays on their religious days? Is that not a bias? Is that not unjust to the remainder of the population? Must you blame Muslims for the denial of other groups their freedom? And your idea of wrapping this around a tactic for makingtheir presence known.. I presume that is completley unbiased right? They would go back to their own country-but they’re already in it. As for you.. Are you sure you are following the right faith? Does you faith recommend questioning or falseley accusing others? Have you even learnt your own faith before teaching others? As for your research, how reliable are your sources? Have you even seen all types of muslims? have you learnt their core beliefs? Do you know ahmadi Muslims? Do ensure what you state is right before you say it. And ofcourse you can have an opinion… But not if its wrong and you know it.

    And do reply, I must hear your explanations

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    • 14. mary christina love  |  March 28, 2010 at 8:42 am

      You did not mention the charter of rights you are you referring to. There is nothing wrong with praying to any diety you wish…You can just do so in the privacy of your own home and mosque. It is an imposition on others who are not Muslim to provide time, space, and footbaths at taxpayer expense. Especially when it is not even required to wash the entire foot. I know that it is only required to wet the hand and spread the water from the toes to the ankle an the top of the foot. And dirt can even be used in place of water! I am sure that muslim taxpayers in an Islamic dominant country would not pay for crosses to be hung in workplaces, or even provide bibles to Christians in prison. Getting Americans to pay for footbaths is just a way to use up the taxpayer money and show supremacy. When I was in the Middle East, I did not see a single footbath. It is about as necessary as needing a hammer to crack an egg. You asked about my faith… Jesus said “Do not pray out loud in public places like the hypocrites do.”

      Of course you want the whole world to see you and hear you once you feel secure with enough muslims around. Muslims demand more when numbers provide security…When numbers allow… Until then they are permitted to lie…. Islam allows denial and even the truth that that led to denial. It is actually an Islamic “religious” concept called “taqiyyah.” I am sure you know about it if you are a “good” Muslim who wants to spread the “faith” using any means necesary. I look at it as twisted psychological abuse.

      As for all the other accusations and questions you demanding an answer to….and sources that confirm that prayer can be postponed…. You can read my post with the answers to your questions here.

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  • […] gym, Halal only choices and banning pork from the cafeteria, Prayer time and a place to pray, foot baths, exclusion from certain classes as occurred in Winnipeg, and a separate “Muslim” Student’s […]

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